Thursday, September 23, 2010

foreclosure investing

Michael Burry, who needs no introduction, was on Bloomberg TV earlier discussing his latest investment allocation, which no longer focuses on shorting real estate via the cheapest possible instrument, and instead is going long cash assets in the form of farmable land (oddly enough, not multi apartment commercial real estate), small tech, and, yes, gold. “I believe that agriculture land -- productive
agricultural land with water on site -- will be very valuable in
the future. I’ve put a good amount of money into that
.” Burry, just like Zero Hedge, laments the surge in cross-asset correlations, which makes all hedging strategies virtually impossible, and is a primary reason for why so many rational investors have decided to depart from the market: "I’m interested in finding investments that aren’t just
simply going to float up and down with the market. The incredible correlation that we’re experiencing -- we’ve
been experiencing for a number of years -- is problematic." Lastly, Burry agrees with the Paulson-Greenspan view on gold, but not any of the other Paulson "Recovery" themes we presented in extreme detail over the weekend: "Paulson's big in gold, and that's something that is interesting to me given how I see the world playing out, but other than gold I haven't really bought into any of the other theses." (And no, you still can't eat it, dammit).

Full interview:


And a second interview in which he discusses why no one is accepting blame for the financial crisis;



 

Key quotes:

On who is to blame for the financial crisis:



“My number one concern is that there has been a complete utter total abdication of personal responsibility though out our entire society. I don’t think anyone anywhere is taking blame themselves for what they did to contribute to the crisis. And again I think it gets back to that blame game. It is the most damaging thing we can do as a country is to blame a narrow set and not look within ourselves for what each of us did or didn’t do to the basic wrong that led to this mess.”
“From the borrower to the average broker all the way to the federal reserve through Congress, the President, several Presidents, I think that this has been coming for awhile and there has been a lessening of the credit standards over a period of time that ultimately led to the kind of blow off top that we have.”

On the current housing market:

“It’s an artificial market. There are a tremendous number of homes where the home homeowner, I think it’s between 2.5 to 3 million homes, where the home homeowner are more than 9 months past due and are not giving notices that they are past due and they’re just living there for free. I actually know one that has been there for a few years without having to pay anything. I think that Fannie and Freddie are basically being used as special purpose vehicles by our government to support the housing market. The private mortgage market is practically nonexistent; 96-97% of mortgages are flowing through Fannie and Freddie now. I think Fannie and Freddie are exercising a tremendous amount of power over the market by withholding properties from sale and not forcing foreclosure, the foreclosure process. I think that it would be best for the government just completely got out of the mortgage market and let the housing, because home prices are a function of income the leverage applied.



On what he is investing in agriculture, real estate and gold:

“I believe that agricultural land, productive agricultural land with water on site, will be very valuable in the future. And I’ve put a good amount of money into that. So I’m investing in alternative investments as well as stocks.”

“I think there is some value in real estate. You have to buy it right. It’s not in general, that’s the problem. I think that there are an awful lot of people out there looking to buy these distressed properties out there and so you need to find special situations. That is how I’ve invested from the beginning. I’m looking for these special situations, these unique ideas and that’s true in real estate too.”

“In my situation I’d rather go long on housing itself, real estate itself. Depending on how you structure it, in the real market, in the physical market, you can get some pretty good deals and I’ve done some of that too.”

“Paulson is big in gold and that is something is interesting to me and given how I see the world playing out. Other than that, I’m just saying, other than gold I haven’t really bought into the other



On the danger of having more power for the Federal Reserve:

“Well, I don't feel that the economic theories and policies that got us into this mess are the same policies and theories that will get us out of this mess. And more to the point, I don't -- I'm 100 percent sure that the policies and theories that got us into this mess won't prevent the next mess from happening.

And that's probably my biggest frustration with the whole process. I don't think that -- I think with all the blame on Wall Street and all the focus on Wall Street -- the increase -- the perp walks for Wall Street -- these things, in a lot of ways, are non -- are not very productive. I think it's not very productive to blame a narrow set of individuals or a narrow set of institutions.

Nobody is taking time to blame anything that anybody in Congress did or the Fed did or the other businesses, you know, how the banks acted, how the mortgage brokers acted, how people acted, how borrowers acted. There's -- there's a lot of blame to go around. And I think this blame game being oriented entirely toward Wall Street is -- is not overall helpful.

On Goldman Sachs shutting down its proprietary trading business:

“I think that brokers should not trade for their own account in securities -- and securities that are also available to their clients. I just don't think that should be done. I think broking should be pretty boring -- safe, boring, low return business. And I think the same is true for banks. They should be very safe, solid, indestructible businesses. And so there are -- some of these seemingly Draconian measures, I think, do need to be taken.”




Michael Burry became famous for selling their own toxic waste to the investment banks before the housing downturn. Bloomberg sat down with Burry this morning in a must see interview (video attached below):


On who is to blame for the financial crisis:

“My number one concern is that there has been a complete utter total abdication of personal responsibility though out our entire society. I don’t think anyone anywhere is taking blame themselves for what they did to contribute to the crisis. And again I think it gets back to that blame game. It is the most damaging thing we can do as a country is to blame a narrow set and not look within ourselves for what each of us did or didn’t do to the basic wrong that led to this mess.”


“From the borrower to the average broker all the way to the federal reserve through Congress, the President, several Presidents, I think that this has been coming for awhile and there has been a lessening of the credit standards over a period of time that ultimately led to the kind of blow off top that we have.”


On the current housing market:


“It’s an artificial market. There are a tremendous number of homes where the home homeowner, I think it’s between 2.5 to 3 million homes, where the home homeowner are more than 9 months past due and are not giving notices that they are past due and they’re just living there for free. I actually know one that has been there for a few years without having to pay anything. I think that Fannie and Freddie are basically being used as special purpose vehicles by our government to support the housing market. The private mortgage market is practically nonexistent; 96-97% of mortgages are flowing through Fannie and Freddie now. I think Fannie and Freddie are exercising a tremendous amount of power over the market by withholding properties from sale and not forcing foreclosure, the foreclosure process. I think that it would be best for the government just completely got out of the mortgage market and let the housing, because home prices are a function of income the leverage applied.


On what he is investing in agriculture, real estate and gold:


“I believe that agricultural land, productive agricultural land with water on site, will be very valuable in the future. And I’ve put a good amount of money into that. So I’m investing in alternative investments as well as stocks.”


“I think there is some value in real estate. You have to buy it right. It’s not in general, that’s the problem. I think that there are an awful lot of people out there looking to buy these distressed properties out there and so you need to find special situations. That is how I’ve invested from the beginning. I’m looking for these special situations, these unique ideas and that’s true in real estate too.”


“In my situation I’d rather go long on housing itself, real estate itself. Depending on how you structure it, in the real market, in the physical market, you can get some pretty good deals and I’ve done some of that too.”


“Paulson is big in gold and that is something is interesting to me and given how I see the world playing out. Other than that, I’m just saying, other than gold I haven’t really bought into the other


On the danger of having more power for the Federal Reserve:


“Well, I don’t feel that the economic theories and policies that got us into this mess are the same policies and theories that will get us out of this mess.  And more to the point, I don’t — I’m 100 percent sure that the policies and theories that got us into this mess won’t prevent the next mess from happening.


And that’s probably my biggest frustration with the whole process.  I don’t think that — I think with all the blame on Wall Street and all the focus on Wall Street — the increase — the perp walks for Wall Street — these things, in a lot of ways, are non — are not very productive.  I think it’s not very productive to blame a narrow set of individuals or a narrow set of institutions.


Nobody is taking time to blame anything that anybody in Congress did or the Fed did or the other businesses, you know, how the banks acted, how the mortgage brokers acted, how people acted, how borrowers acted.  There’s — there’s a lot of blame to go around.  And I think this blame game being oriented entirely toward Wall Street is — is not overall helpful.


On Goldman Sachs shutting down its proprietary trading business:


“I think that brokers should not trade for their own account in securities — and securities that are also available to their clients.  I just don’t think that’s pa — that should be done.  I think broking should be pretty boring — safe, boring, low return business.  And I think the same is true for banks.  They should be very safe, solid, indestructible businesses.  And so there are — some of these seemingly Draconian measures, I think, do need to be taken.”


Part 1 – Where is the accountability?



Part 2 – Burry buys gold and farm land



Source: Bloomberg TV



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Michael Burry, who needs no introduction, was on Bloomberg TV earlier discussing his latest investment allocation, which no longer focuses on shorting real estate via the cheapest possible instrument, and instead is going long cash assets in the form of farmable land (oddly enough, not multi apartment commercial real estate), small tech, and, yes, gold. “I believe that agriculture land -- productive
agricultural land with water on site -- will be very valuable in
the future. I’ve put a good amount of money into that
.” Burry, just like Zero Hedge, laments the surge in cross-asset correlations, which makes all hedging strategies virtually impossible, and is a primary reason for why so many rational investors have decided to depart from the market: "I’m interested in finding investments that aren’t just
simply going to float up and down with the market. The incredible correlation that we’re experiencing -- we’ve
been experiencing for a number of years -- is problematic." Lastly, Burry agrees with the Paulson-Greenspan view on gold, but not any of the other Paulson "Recovery" themes we presented in extreme detail over the weekend: "Paulson's big in gold, and that's something that is interesting to me given how I see the world playing out, but other than gold I haven't really bought into any of the other theses." (And no, you still can't eat it, dammit).

Full interview:


And a second interview in which he discusses why no one is accepting blame for the financial crisis;



 

Key quotes:

On who is to blame for the financial crisis:



“My number one concern is that there has been a complete utter total abdication of personal responsibility though out our entire society. I don’t think anyone anywhere is taking blame themselves for what they did to contribute to the crisis. And again I think it gets back to that blame game. It is the most damaging thing we can do as a country is to blame a narrow set and not look within ourselves for what each of us did or didn’t do to the basic wrong that led to this mess.”
“From the borrower to the average broker all the way to the federal reserve through Congress, the President, several Presidents, I think that this has been coming for awhile and there has been a lessening of the credit standards over a period of time that ultimately led to the kind of blow off top that we have.”

On the current housing market:

“It’s an artificial market. There are a tremendous number of homes where the home homeowner, I think it’s between 2.5 to 3 million homes, where the home homeowner are more than 9 months past due and are not giving notices that they are past due and they’re just living there for free. I actually know one that has been there for a few years without having to pay anything. I think that Fannie and Freddie are basically being used as special purpose vehicles by our government to support the housing market. The private mortgage market is practically nonexistent; 96-97% of mortgages are flowing through Fannie and Freddie now. I think Fannie and Freddie are exercising a tremendous amount of power over the market by withholding properties from sale and not forcing foreclosure, the foreclosure process. I think that it would be best for the government just completely got out of the mortgage market and let the housing, because home prices are a function of income the leverage applied.



On what he is investing in agriculture, real estate and gold:

“I believe that agricultural land, productive agricultural land with water on site, will be very valuable in the future. And I’ve put a good amount of money into that. So I’m investing in alternative investments as well as stocks.”

“I think there is some value in real estate. You have to buy it right. It’s not in general, that’s the problem. I think that there are an awful lot of people out there looking to buy these distressed properties out there and so you need to find special situations. That is how I’ve invested from the beginning. I’m looking for these special situations, these unique ideas and that’s true in real estate too.”

“In my situation I’d rather go long on housing itself, real estate itself. Depending on how you structure it, in the real market, in the physical market, you can get some pretty good deals and I’ve done some of that too.”

“Paulson is big in gold and that is something is interesting to me and given how I see the world playing out. Other than that, I’m just saying, other than gold I haven’t really bought into the other



On the danger of having more power for the Federal Reserve:

“Well, I don't feel that the economic theories and policies that got us into this mess are the same policies and theories that will get us out of this mess. And more to the point, I don't -- I'm 100 percent sure that the policies and theories that got us into this mess won't prevent the next mess from happening.

And that's probably my biggest frustration with the whole process. I don't think that -- I think with all the blame on Wall Street and all the focus on Wall Street -- the increase -- the perp walks for Wall Street -- these things, in a lot of ways, are non -- are not very productive. I think it's not very productive to blame a narrow set of individuals or a narrow set of institutions.

Nobody is taking time to blame anything that anybody in Congress did or the Fed did or the other businesses, you know, how the banks acted, how the mortgage brokers acted, how people acted, how borrowers acted. There's -- there's a lot of blame to go around. And I think this blame game being oriented entirely toward Wall Street is -- is not overall helpful.

On Goldman Sachs shutting down its proprietary trading business:

“I think that brokers should not trade for their own account in securities -- and securities that are also available to their clients. I just don't think that should be done. I think broking should be pretty boring -- safe, boring, low return business. And I think the same is true for banks. They should be very safe, solid, indestructible businesses. And so there are -- some of these seemingly Draconian measures, I think, do need to be taken.”




Michael Burry became famous for selling their own toxic waste to the investment banks before the housing downturn. Bloomberg sat down with Burry this morning in a must see interview (video attached below):


On who is to blame for the financial crisis:

“My number one concern is that there has been a complete utter total abdication of personal responsibility though out our entire society. I don’t think anyone anywhere is taking blame themselves for what they did to contribute to the crisis. And again I think it gets back to that blame game. It is the most damaging thing we can do as a country is to blame a narrow set and not look within ourselves for what each of us did or didn’t do to the basic wrong that led to this mess.”


“From the borrower to the average broker all the way to the federal reserve through Congress, the President, several Presidents, I think that this has been coming for awhile and there has been a lessening of the credit standards over a period of time that ultimately led to the kind of blow off top that we have.”


On the current housing market:


“It’s an artificial market. There are a tremendous number of homes where the home homeowner, I think it’s between 2.5 to 3 million homes, where the home homeowner are more than 9 months past due and are not giving notices that they are past due and they’re just living there for free. I actually know one that has been there for a few years without having to pay anything. I think that Fannie and Freddie are basically being used as special purpose vehicles by our government to support the housing market. The private mortgage market is practically nonexistent; 96-97% of mortgages are flowing through Fannie and Freddie now. I think Fannie and Freddie are exercising a tremendous amount of power over the market by withholding properties from sale and not forcing foreclosure, the foreclosure process. I think that it would be best for the government just completely got out of the mortgage market and let the housing, because home prices are a function of income the leverage applied.


On what he is investing in agriculture, real estate and gold:


“I believe that agricultural land, productive agricultural land with water on site, will be very valuable in the future. And I’ve put a good amount of money into that. So I’m investing in alternative investments as well as stocks.”


“I think there is some value in real estate. You have to buy it right. It’s not in general, that’s the problem. I think that there are an awful lot of people out there looking to buy these distressed properties out there and so you need to find special situations. That is how I’ve invested from the beginning. I’m looking for these special situations, these unique ideas and that’s true in real estate too.”


“In my situation I’d rather go long on housing itself, real estate itself. Depending on how you structure it, in the real market, in the physical market, you can get some pretty good deals and I’ve done some of that too.”


“Paulson is big in gold and that is something is interesting to me and given how I see the world playing out. Other than that, I’m just saying, other than gold I haven’t really bought into the other


On the danger of having more power for the Federal Reserve:


“Well, I don’t feel that the economic theories and policies that got us into this mess are the same policies and theories that will get us out of this mess.  And more to the point, I don’t — I’m 100 percent sure that the policies and theories that got us into this mess won’t prevent the next mess from happening.


And that’s probably my biggest frustration with the whole process.  I don’t think that — I think with all the blame on Wall Street and all the focus on Wall Street — the increase — the perp walks for Wall Street — these things, in a lot of ways, are non — are not very productive.  I think it’s not very productive to blame a narrow set of individuals or a narrow set of institutions.


Nobody is taking time to blame anything that anybody in Congress did or the Fed did or the other businesses, you know, how the banks acted, how the mortgage brokers acted, how people acted, how borrowers acted.  There’s — there’s a lot of blame to go around.  And I think this blame game being oriented entirely toward Wall Street is — is not overall helpful.


On Goldman Sachs shutting down its proprietary trading business:


“I think that brokers should not trade for their own account in securities — and securities that are also available to their clients.  I just don’t think that’s pa — that should be done.  I think broking should be pretty boring — safe, boring, low return business.  And I think the same is true for banks.  They should be very safe, solid, indestructible businesses.  And so there are — some of these seemingly Draconian measures, I think, do need to be taken.”


Part 1 – Where is the accountability?



Part 2 – Burry buys gold and farm land



Source: Bloomberg TV



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The content on this site is provided as general information only and should not be taken as investment advice. All site content shall not be construed as a recommendation to buy or sell any security or financial product, or to participate in any particular trading or investment strategy. The ideas expressed on this site are solely the opinions of the author(s) and do not necessarily represent the opinions of firms affiliated with the author(s). The opinions of all guest authors or contributors can and will differ from those of Mr. Roche. These opinions do not necessarily represent the opinions or investment decisions of Mr. Roche. The author(s) may or may not have a position in any security referenced herein and may or may not seek to do business with one another or companies mentioned via this website. Any action that you take as a result of information or analysis on this site is ultimately your responsibility. Consult your investment adviser before making any investment decisions.


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